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The issue of the alleged prolific use of swear words by police officers, some of whom charge civilians for using indecent language came into focus at the Kingstown Magistrate’s Court on Monday.

The topic featured in the case in which Osika Davy, of Spring Village was charged with using indecent language in a van in which an off duty police officer was also a passenger.

And, as a lawyer who was at the bar table but not involved in the matter intervened, the court heard of an expletives-laced post that a junior police officer allegedly made on WhatsApp that resulted in a similar tirade from a senior officer in a closed door meeting in which he reprimanded her for her post.

A recording of the alleged exchange involving the police officers has been circulated on social media.

In Monday’s case, Davy, of Spring Village, told the court that while she had sworn in the minibus, she had not used the word that the police alleged in their charge.

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Davy was charged that on June 19, at Lowman’s Hill, while on board an omnibus, she used indecent language, to wit, “Wha’ de mother***t you ah tell me ‘bout? Wha’ de f**k! Dem ah God?”

She pleaded guilty to a charge that on the same date, she damaged a hasp and staple, valued at EC$10, the property of the Government of St. Vincent and the Grenadines.

The defendant told the court that she and her boyfriend were in the van when they got into an argument over how he was holding her child’s birthday cake.

The woman told the court that she “did buss a bad wud” telling her boyfriend that if it were his child’s cake, he would have held it better.

Davy said that someone told her that a police officer was in the van and she responded, telling them why they were telling her about police and whether the police were God.

She, however, denied using indecent language then.

Vynette Frederick
Lawyer Vynnette Frederick. (iWN file photo)

Defence Counsel, Vynnette Frederick, who was at the bar table, but was not involved in the case rose and told the court that is it strange that police are still charging people with indecent language.

The lawyer said that no one is “more prolific in using bad wud” than police officers.

“Sometimes, a bad wud is necessary sometimes, if you could express yourself with bad word because it could prevent a crime,” the lawyer said.

“And, the fact that the police is not — bad word God — is a fact. Why should police be offended? It’s harsh to legislate bad word. I don’t really curse; I am not skilled; but sometimes a bad word is necessary,” she said.

However, prosecutor Police Constable Corlene Samuel rose and reminded the court that the police do not make the law.

“They are enforcing the law,” she said, adding, “What one or two police officer say doesn’t change the law.”

Samuel said that the Crown was accepting the guilty plea on the damage to property charge and would proceed against Davy on the indecent language charge on another day.

But Frederick acknowledged that it is the duty of the police to enforce the law and told the court of the allegation of the exchange between the junior officer and her superiors.

She further read the post that the junior is alleged to have made on WhatsApp that trigger the alleged response by a superior officer.

The post states:

“Some people does feel people are robots so tell me since yesterday morning at 4 am my eyes open I have not closed my eyes till 1 hour ago now these people callin me bout work and work. f**k am not a robot let me rest my f**king body.Is beat I came from I work station orderly with my f**king eyes open from 6 to 6.Country patrol 11 till after 2 pm. Bout learn and learn f**k all of you.I’m not a sleeper alyo know who the f**k alyo can pull rank on bout sleep and sleep.F**k off”

Frederick said “if there is any truth, at a minimum, this is publication of language that is similar content, similar words”.

She added that Davy was in court charged for using indecent language and was being told to return to court for trial, with the prosecutor saying that the police are going about their job.

The lawyer said “the issue is about generally applying the law equally across the board to all members in the society”.

She said that the allegation is that police officers also use the same language, adding that it is really unfair to say that the law is on the book, but is not being applied equally.

“You go after some and not others. I just have to say,” she said, adding that the matter of the WhatsApp post is in the public domain and, therefore, she raised it.

“The public is watching… It leaves a bad taste in my mouth,” Frederick said.

Rickie Burnnett
Senior Magistrate, Rickie Burnett. (iWN file photo)

The magistrate said that based on what the defendant had said, he has to enter a not guilty plea for her on the indecent language charge.

Burnett, however, said that Davy seems frustrated that she had to return to court another day for trial.

The prosecutor said she was accepting the pleas and would have discussion with her superior at the Office of the Director of Public Prosecution.

In response to Frederick, the prosecutor said that the Crown deals with each matter on its own merit.

“And we have to choose place and time to deal with certain things. And we are dealing with a matter where the defendant made use of indecent language in a public place.”

Corlene Samuel
Prosecutor Police Constable Corlene Samuel. (iWN file photo)

Samuel said regardless of whether one or two police officers run afoul of the law does not change the fact that the defendant might have done something wrong.

“If a police officer kills somebody, does that give the right to somebody else to go and kill somebody else? No your honour,” the prosecutor said, raising her voice slightly.

“Prosecutor, remain the prosecutor today,” the magistrate said.

“Your honour, it is not the time or place for that,” Samuel said in reference to Frederick’s intervention.  

The magistrate said he did not want to put the prosecutor on the spot, adding that he was hoping that senior prosecutor Adolphus Delplesche was in the courtroom.

Delplesche, who prosecutes at the Serious Offences Court, located on the first floor of the same building, was at the Kingstown Magistrate’s Court earlier, waiting to represent the Crown in a preliminary inquiry.

However, he was not in the courtroom when Davy’s matter was called.

When Delplesche arrived, he reviewed the case file then magistrate also asked the defendant to tell the court what transpired in the van.

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Senior Prosecutor Adolphus Delplesche.(iWN file photo)

The woman went on to tell the court that it was not the first time that she had had a run in with that police officer.

“This police officer does meet me and just exercise he authority on me. Because he did me that one time already,” she said, adding that the officer had detained her once and his colleague had to discharge her.

Burnett noted that that allegation was new to the court.

“We are now hearing this part,” the magistrate said, noting that Davy had attempted to say something earlier and he stopped her.

Delplesche told the court that given what the woman had just said, he would rather the matter go to trial, noting that the woman had said that the officer always harasses her.

“Let it go to trial,” Delplesche said.

The matter was adjourned to July 28 for trial. The court allowed station bail to continue.

6 replies on “Cops’ swearing features in bad word case against woman”

  1. Bill Johnney says:

    Good job prosecutor Samuel. I am surprised the Magisrtate did not stop Vynnette who was just trying to be relevant. Circumstances dictates two things here, firstly the recording circulating on social media alleging two police officers at war and hauling bad words at each other was done in private, the case involving Davy, allegedly using bad words was on a bus which is public and done in the presence of others. The two cases are completely different and I firmly believe that Vynnette was completely malicious to rise at the bar table and make mention of that recording allegedly involving police officers.

  2. Some of these laws are indeed archaic and needs to either be repealed and or amended. The major issue here is that there’s a thin line between law and morality and indeed a simple matter like this warrants a warning to the individual and reprimanding her on the spot. What would have aggravated the situation is if she then turned to the officer and start using expletives towards him or her after being warned.

    Conversely, police officers should not curse civilians either, mind you there are extenuating circumstances that this usually happens. Maybe in the heat of the moment whilst in a hot pursuit or where a weapon is drawn by a criminal. Certain actions should be taken against officers who arbitrarily curse a civilian which may include either civil or internal disciplinary actions. This is a matter which is debatable and we need to change with the times given the fact that there are so many violent crimes being committed in our society that needs to be focused on.

  3. Columbus lie says:

    Its a shame that the court in svg keep using these stupid slavery laws against your poor citizens. These news articles are seen world wide and it make your justice system look like a hog pen. You want any words more indecent than these racist pigs laws they leave for these stupid so called authorities to use to further oppress the weak. Almost everybody in svg use curse words especially those in authority. So let the f***ng mot c woman be free.

  4. Julius Carter says:

    To be honest… there is one law for some and another the some… the is not equal across St. Vincent and the grenadine…. that may be 2 police officers there on whatsapp but the police uses indecent language in season and out of season… this one is only recorded…… and Coleen who is the Prosecutor in this matter is only looking to get a win under her belt for promotion… why has this reach to trial by the way… let me say this Coleen when you are deal with this one follow the law by all means thank you…

  5. Just a waste of the Court time. Where ever you go the police officers curse worse than the general public. The attorney had all rights to rise on behalf of the defendant.

  6. Ok let me be clear I do not condone the use of profanity as a way to express an opinion as tell the kids around me “use your words” to describe your problems or issues without profanity and you will get attention.
    Now could anybody please tell me why it was a good use of public funds to take this woman to court? What was the estimate cost of this exercise? What is the average cost per hour to operate the court? I would say to open the court for an hour cost about $1,000 on the low end. Now tell me how wrong I am and was it worth it.
    Now what about some personal responsibility by the van driver to his/her other customers, why did the van driver not just simply stop the van and ask the woman to stop the use of profanity in the vehicle or get out. After doing that a few time that person and others would not consider it ok to use profanity in semi public places like a minivan.
    Stop wasting our limited funds.

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